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KNAC.COM Exclusive Interview: Illuminations of a Pyrotechnicrat

By Philthy Phil, 8-Foot Viking
Monday, February 24, 2003 @ 10:15 PM


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Imagine watching KISS on stage without a major pyro display. You can almost feel the heat thinking about it. Now imagine seeing KISS in a nightclub with low ceilings and a capacity of 300. Never happen right?

Benny Doro has seen KISS play clubs…over 1500 times…so close he could touch the band members. That’s because he’s in the KISS tribute band, Hotter Than Hell.

As the discussion continues to flare-up over the fire in Rhode Island and who might be to blame, if anyone, I thought I would speak to someone who knows a thing or two about putting on pyrotechnic shows night after night in clubs across North America. If anyone would know, it’s Benny Doro.

Doro plays Paul Stanley in the tribute band that, according to Doro, is the only KISS tribute band officially sanctioned by KISS. I asked Doro to describe his stage show in the context of playing a nightclub the size of The Station in Rhode Island. “We carry one of the biggest pyro shows you can put in a club” Doro says, “flame towers, sparkle showers (like the ones Great White used), smoking guitars, flames, fire-breathing…all the good stuff.” Doro went on, “Any venue that will let us do it, or where it is safe to do it, we will use it. We gotta do it to make the show more spectacular, more true to life.”

With all that firepower, it begs the question; what is the typical experience with a club when you come to an agreement about your performance? “In general the club…they don’t ever require licenses” Doro says, “They just say, 'be sure to bring your pyro show' and that’s what we do.” Doro continued, “But we always bring a licensed Pyro technician with us.”

”Usually when we get to the venue” Doro explains, “The fire marshal is waiting for us. We demo what we plan to do and he tells us what we can and cannot do. We use whatever we’re allow to use, because believe me, that pyro is expensive. If we don’t have to use it, so be it. We’re saving money. It’s the music that carries the show anyway.

"It’s the club owners” Doro offers, “That want the pyro. One time we couldn’t take our pyro tech over the border into Canada for a couple of shows. It was just against Canadian law. The clubs insisted we do pyro and we told them we would have to cancel unless they hired a Canadian tech for us.”

Based on Doro’s experience, it seems a lot of clubs want pyro. But what about The Station, or even the New Jersey Club, the Stone Pony, whose owner, Mr. Santana was so happy to speak to the press and throw Great White into the inferno of public opinion? “We’ve played both clubs with pyro,” Doro says. “Both clubs are pretty lax in their rules.

Doro told me there are plenty of clubs that flat out won’t allow pyro, and in his opinion, the club is responsible for the safety of the patrons as well as being sensitive to local rules and regulations. Breaking the wrong rules on the wrong night could certainly get a club shut down. Doro said, “If a band comes into town and wants to saw a pig in half on stage, that’s great, but it might be illegal in some states.”

I asked Doro to speak about what he felt might have happened in the Great White situation. He said, “I don’t believe Great White was going to blow off pyro if they were told not to...they wouldn’t get paid (bands typically get half their pay up front, and the other half is withheld if there is a breach of contract), and word would get out to other clubs, and it costs money to do pyro. They aren’t going to waste their money if they don’t have to.”

But Doro’s message about blame is measured. “From my side of the fence, I know what happens when I go into these clubs. It's the clubs that call the shots. If the club is prepared for pyro, then we do it. Sometimes bands roll in with two-bit pyro guys and they don’t really know what to do if there's a spark and things get out of control. A club owner’s responsibility is to keep the patrons safe, see what the band is going to do and approve or disapprove it, instead of letting a band roll right through. The band has a responsibility to check out the club as well. One time we played a club and said, ‘look at the dust on the ceiling, if any of our flames hit the ceiling, this place is going up in smoke’, so we say no flames, and the club owner says, ‘give me flames', and we say 'clean the ceilings’. A lot of clubs have years of cigarette tar and dust on the walls and the ceiling. We've had plenty of times when our pyro show caught light gels or curtains on fire, but then our guy is there to put it out. You have about 20 seconds to take care of the problem, and a pro knows what to do.”

But then, with one unguarded parting shot, Doro said this about club owners, “They just want to make sure they are packing people into the front door, sometimes at any cost. I really don’t think they (Great White) did anything on purpose or anything wrong. It’s going to be up to the investigation to find out what happens here. I just hope the club owners cooperate with the officials. Besides, there's got to be a lot of information out there, with the fans and the roadies about band after band after band that have blown pyro in that club.”

Hotter Than Hell is playing several dates in the Pacific Northwest this week and next. At least three of those clubs have called Doro to ask they do not use any pyro until things get figured out. Doro says, “This is just a tough thing to deal with. Hopefully we’ll all learn something from it. My heart goes out to anybody who has anything to with any of those people in that club.”

For more info about Hotter Than Hell, go to hotterthanhell.com.



READER RANTS

makko - 3/12/2003 9:53:42 PM
Check out this site- it has alot of new stuff on that club fire in RI, like witness audios. http://hammernews.com/nightclub.htm MS

Emily_Strange - 3/3/2003 4:41:17 AM
I did the same thing ladyworeblack, I emailed him the 1st. day someone here mentioned the site. I also asked him a lot of tough questions as did some friends of mine & he completely avoided every question. The next day he put up a site update to totally bash rock fans & even changed around some of the wording. Don't expect to get anything back from him he's a coward. To me the scariest thing is some woman is letting him raise her child....weak bitch.

ladyworeblack156 - 3/2/2003 11:54:15 PM
i actually emailed the rocktragedy fundie but instead of screaming at him or cursing him out i used a different approach, mainly taking issue with his using a tragedy like this to further his religious agenda. i also mentioned that if he was truly as good a christian as he would claim, why didn't he do something useful like donate to the victim's fund rather than spewing hatred and damnation. i did get a reply from him but like every other fundamentalist i've dealt with he simply resorted to quoting from the bible and hiding behind that rather than thinking for himself.. oh and my definition of fundamentalist is (and i think many of you will agree) is no FUN, all DAMN , and very little MENTAL. i know that people like this are basically nothing more than attention whores, but i also think that my approach to his take on things may have taken him by suprise a little bit in the fact that i didn't rip him a new one..probably didn't change anything, but hey, i still felt i needed to say something! i'll keep you posted on any further emails i receive...

TsTm77 - 3/2/2003 11:49:27 PM
So how long have you worked for tshirthell reasondone?

beyatch - 3/2/2003 8:51:53 AM
Laughter may be the best medicine, but seeing a TShirt announcing your loved one is gone is SO NOT FUCKING FUNNY.

ESRO5 - 2/28/2003 9:51:36 PM
I thought "97 fans" was generous...

reasonedone - 2/28/2003 4:26:05 PM
You guys, come on. That t-shirt is hilarious, and I think that if I had a family die in the fire, I would want to get over it with laughter. Laughter is the best medicine. Always remember, angels fly because they take themselves lightly.

Sixxisgod - 2/27/2003 2:35:08 PM
I was about to go check out the rock-tragedy site, cause I heard that some shit like that was going on. But you know what? Moneybone is right, its not even worth the time, fuck them. Oh yeah, everybody donate money to the families' fund.

Drumsmak - 2/26/2003 3:20:47 PM
I always thought t-shirt hells shirts were funny but goddamn anybody knows not to bite the hand that feeds you. In other words dont offend the people who actually buy the shirts "IDIOTS". Also,If you ignore a religious idiot they will go away.

The_Space_Lord - 2/26/2003 2:10:10 PM
I saw a few of their shirts. Personally, I don't think they're really offensive. Some of them aren't even close. It's lukewarm slacker humor for the most part but it still doesn't justify their latest shirt made up for the nightclub fire.

Bitterpill - 2/26/2003 1:42:45 PM
Fair enough!!!

MoneyBone - 2/26/2003 1:31:43 PM
Bitterpill- Please don't refer this garbage of a site. This site is nothing more than a snare trap to lure you in and piss you off with this one man's so "righteous" ignorance and opinions of how wrong rock n roll music is. Fuck him! All these religious fanatics are hypocrites anyway. This is what he wants...the ATTENTION, just like the t-shirts from hell people. It's not worth your time and energy to give these people any of your time! They know that pouring salt in a wound will make you scream...just consider the source and thank God that your not related to these fucks!

Bitterpill - 2/26/2003 12:24:14 PM
People check out www.rocktragedy.com you won't believe what you read!!!

SaneEurope - 2/26/2003 9:23:36 AM
Yep. Tell the T-shirt fuckers to eat shit, the page and their t-shirts are crap, etc. the twats. Uh, severe dental rearranging is deserved for that shite.

Darth_Chaos - 2/26/2003 9:15:41 AM
I always thought T-shit Hell's stuff was a little over the top, but to pull this!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanx to Robj for having the integrity to kick their ass off our site!


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